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Trinket’s blog~ it happened again:(

Wed ,22/07/2009

Hi Kiddies…

Last night I had another very scary seizureCryCryCryCry

Mamma here~ After last night’s episode I am sure now that “Event” at 3 in the morning two nights ago was a seizure. OK they are getting a bit weird and terrifying for me and for her and she has awareness through them which is I think is a bit wierd since all my reading suggested they don’t. My heart just breaks for her. last night she cried out and screamed through the whole thing. I thought again she was dying, I didn’t know what was going on. Again she started clawing like she wanted to just run full speed, but of course she can’t. Her eyes were huge and her mouth was open and she was so wet around the mouth, at first I thought she was choking again but we had finished her syringe feeding over a half hour before. I thought she couldn’t breath, I don’t know for sure but it reminded me so much of Minnie when she had her heart attackt (and we thought she was choking then) so I grabbed her and started patting her back and then her chest firmly, not too hard, but I didn’t know what else to do. I was lost I just held her and kept patting her chest trying not to cry and saying NO no no no no, all the while she let out this crying sound very much like a bunny scream but it had no power it it was so weak.  and then the horrible tooth grinding started. She had her Tramadol an hour before so it should have been working and she shouldn’t have been in pain to set it off, but I just don’t know. When it was done and it took a minute or so that felt like an hour she was limp and was breathing hard again. I lay back with her on my chest and shoulder for a long while until she calmed enough I figured she was going to survive.

Even this morning she is very quite and weak, these things are really taking a lot of her. I know I am so numb and terrified for her having to go through these horrible things. I don’t know how these other E.C. buns and thier Mom manage to endure these things with their sanity intact. How do you bare it? “sigh” I have no faith on putting her on the pheonbaribitol? I think that’s it, I’ve just read so much about it not working so well and the side effects are harsh, so I will try it soon though, but first I want to try something radical again. She has survived two of what I consider major seizures, she doesn’t get the full body thing, it seems its mostly in her head. Anway I did more searching and found reference in dogs to using three particualr homeopathic remedies together that seem to work, how well I have no idea, but I KNOW the one I have her on for kidney did work and does still work so I am willing to try it for a few days and see what happens. Right now she seems to be on a every 2 day cycle of getting a seizure. I’ve already upped her herb, it did seem to be doing it in the begining but things are definately accelerating. I’ll get the remedies this afternoon right after I finish her breakfast feeding and we’ll see, if she can go several days without a seizure I feel it will have worked, but if she has two more I’ll put her on the pheobarbitol.

The other thing that is strange is that she only has these things in the night, after 11 pm and the latest one was at 3am, but mostly around 11ish, this blows my mind, but when researching the homeopathics, one of them is specified for nighttime seizures~ go figure. Her med schedual is based on a 12 hour rotation so if it was med induced I’d think she’d have them during the day as well.

She is loudly chompin on some greens right  now (again not enough to amount ot much, but I grateful for every mouthful she does take), she is finally starting to look a bit better. Yesterday she seemed very tired all day long, I wonder if her condition is a precurser to the seizures, I don’t know, I don’t anything anymore. I haven’t gotten anymore of the herb for her, I wanted to see if we managed the pain with the Tramadol if she would eat a similar amount and so far I’d say so (maybe sort of, again I don’t know what I’m doing any more..), now if we can just get this seizure thing better controled.  (crap, now she is just sitting on her salad, the chompin didn’t last longFrown

*I’d be grateful for any imput about the typical seizure meds that any of the E.C. bun Moms can tell me, I seem to have it in my head that it doesn’t really work. How long do they go on like this? How often are the seizures typically?

I’m barly holding on to a shred of sanity, well at least I’m calmly going insane.

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Trinket’s Blog~ Scariest Night EVER!!

Sun ,19/07/2009

Hi my Bunny friends…

Oh my goodness, I don’t know where to start? OK, the last few days have been going along and Mamma has been holding her breath nearly hopin and prayin that there has been some improvement. Well we both think that there has been. I am almost afraid to say so, but I will and hopefully that will make it real. But its still tough as well. My herb has been working good every 3 1/2 to 4 hours to make me nibble and keep me from grinding any teeth. Mamma has not let me go longer to see what happens cause its just too hard on me to get me comfortable again. THe Metacam is still barely doing it for me and only for 10hours so Mamma has decied on Monday to ask Dr Deb for some Tramadol for me, for a while at least while we are waiting for this Yucca stuff to work and the Glucasamine/Condroitin.

Sadly I have had a few more seizures, until last night they were just little ones and they were over quick and I recovered quickly as well, If Mamma hadn’t been holding me she may have never have known I had them. I know Mamma is still very worried and I can feel it, but she has been very calm since we had “the Talk”

Well we have hit a glitch in our plan. Mamma didn’t realize I would be going through so much herb since I’m getting it so often and it has been working so well.  On Thursday she realized I was gonna run out. so she has been trying to get some more, but where she gets it, they have been away. Finally yesterday she got through and hoped she could get some yesterday but it didn’t happen and I ran out. So calmly Mamma decided to split the high dose of metacam into two and give it to me 12 hours apart to get me through until MOnday. Well my vets have been adament about Mamma not doing this before, but what else could she do? Mamma did some googling and has seen reference to several rabbit people doing this so she is hopin for short period its OK. Well the wierd thing is she had only one dose of the herb left and last night I managed to slide past the 4 hour point without needing it so Mamma waited until bed and gave me the Metacam and saving the herb.

Well we went to bed like any other night. Mamma was holding me while I was in my little pet bed and I was snuggled up into her and she usually does some Reiki and we listen to music while we drift off. Some nights I might chew on some salad. Well suddenly Mamma wakes up, she had fallen asleep while she was still holding me and I was going crazy, I was clawing the air and her like I was trying to drag myself out of my grave!! Mamma threw on the light and my eyes were huge and I was grinding my teeth like mad. She hadn’t rolled on me or anything like that and she had no idea what was happening, but she grabbed me and held me close to her chest so I couldn’t hurt myself and I was breathing so fast it was 4 or 5 times what I should have been breathing. She could feel my heart pounding so fast it was vibrating in my chest so fast it was sending pain down Mamma’s arm while she held me. She was spookily calm through all of it and I could hear her whispering her goodbyes to me, telling me again all the things she loved and admired about me. She talked about Minnie and B and how happy they would be to see me and how everything would OK. I listened to every word, she kept me ancored to life while eveything else was racing, I though for sure I was going to explode, but I felt her arms holding me tight and I knew she was doing her energy thing trying to calm me. WE stayed like that for half an hour at least and finally Mamma asked me if I could manage to take some of my herb with the banana so she went down to make it for me. when she came back I was still racing but I did manage to get the stuff down my gob when she syringed it in. An hour later I was starting to calm down a bit and finally this morning my breathing and heart rate are normal. Mamma held me for hours until she finally couldn’t stay awake but the crisis was finally subsiding.

So I wake up here again today and there was no tooth grinding, but its time for that split dose of Metacam in 15 minutes, I hope Mamma gives it me. So I won’t nibble this morning, it seems I really do need that herb for that but its been 7 hours since i had any so there is nothing left to stimulate my appetite. I was very scared and I don’t know what happened,but I hope it never happens again. We’ll see what happens today, I sure wish I had my herb thoughFrown xox T

Mamma here~ OMG I thought that was it, I really thought she was going to have a heart attack. How can such a sick little thing have her heart race and her breathing go so fast for so long and survive? I don’t understand it how her body can contain it, I thought surely she’d explode. I said my goodbyes because that was all I could think to do, to just be there for her and comfort her the best I could. Thankfully I realized that last dose of the herb and it took nearly an hour, but it did calm her brought her closer to normal. It was a long scary night, but all I can figure is that she had seizure. I’d done some reading and from what I could gather, normally when people and I was assume animals have a seizure, at first they become of aware of an altered feeling or sometimes pain, then a switch goes off and the next thing they are aware of is the after feeling and very often its pain. But I think maybe Trinket was aware for hers throughout it, it reminded me of when we had to put Minnie down, that last second of awareness and then what I perceived as fear. Those few seconds haunts my memory, it was eerily similar. So I wonder if she may have had some kind of altered sensation along with the pain that freaked her out. It was more of a fear reaction she had as opposed to pain, and I think the pain was a result of her body’s reaction to the fear. I don’t know for sure, I’m in unchartered territoty here. I’ve been through a lot with my buns but this is all so unfamilar to me, I feel lost and confused. Last night I struggled with trying to help her through it and taking her in at 4am to be PTS. Monday she sees Dr Deb, I’ll go over all this with her and see what she thinks. We haven’t brought the big guns to try and manage the seizures so that is still an option. I just can’t help but taking each day and trying to do the best I can so if she does pull through, there may still be hope for a quality of life and happiness. The glucosamine treatment is two months away from us knowing any impact, it feel crazy in some ways to treat her for something that we won’t see results for that far along, but we have to start somewhere and I know how strong she is, I don’t understand it but I do reconize it.

So the absolute weird thing is that through all of this I am calm, somewhat detached and disconnected but I think its my way of coping. I didn’t cry last night or freak out at all, it was a little fuzzy for a bit but I stayed like a rock, almost shut down so I could do what I had to. I have a feeling when the tears do start I won’t be able to stop them so I do what I have to for now and I’ll worry about that later. Its time for T’s morning Mash and her Metacam so far so grinding, she is resting quite a bit but we just went through Hell not so long ago so I guess its to be expected, but I did just get a kiss, a small glimmer of hope that she wants me to  continue…

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Trinket’s Blog~ We’re back in the Twighlight Zone

Thu ,25/06/2009

My Friends…Cry

I am OK now, but Mamma is in shock and not sure yet how to feel, but last night I had my first seizureFrown We knew it was a risk and probablity with the E.C, but had hoped I would never have to deal with this as well, but it appears now that we have to figure a way to manage them as well. Here is a copy of the email she sent to my surgical vet right after…

She was in her pet bed and was stretched out over the edge with her front legs on the couch, she twisted her head to left as if or so I thought to groom and was licking me and seemed to stretch more as if she was about to flip herself on her side or back like a head tilt rollover. I picked her up and she seemed unresponsive but twisted  like the head tilt, I handed her to Dave and he said her eyes were rolled back in her head and buggy, her head still twisted, but she didn’t move for a bit. Then she was disoriented for a few minutes and then finally OK although she started really grinding her teeth so I gave her .10 ml of Metacam

So we heard back from him this morning and he has confirmed that it sounds like a general seizure to him. He told Mamma to give me a wee bit of honey when I am coming of it as it could be my low body weight causing sudden drops in my blood sugar or it could be the E.C. but that the honey would help me out. Mamma also sent an email to my holistic vet to ask her about an herb I was on for ages when my head tilt was such an issue as it was suppose to help prevent seizures. Then we had no reason to think would develope them so it was nice as a preventative but mostly helped with my dizziness with the head tilt, but now it looks like we really need to give it a try and hopefully it does work.

I was very suckly last night after all this and I really wanted Mamma to just cuddle me and let me smooch her for an hour in bed before we went to sleep. I’m not eating so much today but I am getting around good and right now I am enjoying snuggles with Daddy (he hasn’t made it to work this week~ Damn recession!!) My surgical doctor has agreed he is willing to try the mirtazapine that Dewey’s Mom recommended he just said he wants to carefully research the dosage and frequency, so here is hopin it will help me eat!! Its funny cause he suggested an antidepressant so he was thinking of this one and when mamma emailed him last night she mentioned that one specifically and that was what he was thinking of. I am so happy they are on the same page. My holistc vet was very sceptical of the appetite stimulants and only knew of the Cypro which didn’t work for meFrown

Its kind of scary everything that is going on right now, but maybe it will all be OK in the end. The really errie and creepy thing is that when Mamma and Dr Dave were discussing possible meds, he mentioned he was leery of quickly making a recommendation without being very sure of it safty in buns cause he didn’t want a distraught Mommy calling him at home saying “hey I just gave my bun this med, why are they having a seizure?!” OMG, Why did he say that? CryHow could he jinx me like that? How is it possible that later that very night at 11:30ish I have a seizure? I wasn’t taking any weird meds though. I swear to BunnyGod we live in own version of the Twighlight Zone!!

P.S. the doggie who had her teeth (two of the largest back molars one on each side) out looks like just went 12 rounds with Rocky, her face went all swollen and she had bloodshot eyes that were all swollen. She is an annoying doggie, but I even felt sorry for her, thankfully they had some pretty heavy duty pain meds for her, she even walked into a door!! She is doing much better now and her face looks close to normal and her swelling around her eyes has come down. She is eating and she is still annoying so everything must be OK.

xox TKiss

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