Tinkie A.D.

A bridge between the hands and the heart…

Well kiddies, I think Mamma has officially lost her MIND!! I can’t believe but she actually thinks I’m gonna eat somebun else’s cecal!!!  NOT…

So poor Gracie sat in her carrier with her cone on for 5 hours. Mamma did give her some hay and some of our tastiest treats, but she had to sit in the laundry room with Mamma while she was spring cleaning in there. Mamma was very surprised that Gracie was such a good girl, she had several naps and munched on some tasties and somehow she figured out how to get her little paw inside the cone so she could lick her paws and wipe her face. Mamma kept makin her pull her leg out but she’d even rest with her paw through it. Anyway, Mamma wanted to figure out what time of day G made her cecals so she made her stay in there until finally she made some. Well at 8 pm she finally made a stinkie!! I don’t know why but Mamma and  Daddy were very happy about this. “Big deal” I said, I can make a ton of poopies if I want to!!

OK so then Mamma came at me with G’s stinkie ass Cecals and OMG do they stink, they are nothing like my own and I was not impressed with Mamma started stickin those in my face. I tried to fake her out and pretend that I took a bite, but she didn’t fall for it. she even tried to get me to eat some of my own first and I wouldn’t do that either. So she tried for quite a while, she even put some of my bacon on them to see if I would eat them. NO I do not like Bacon on my poo or anybun else’s poo, thank YOU!! Finally Mamma put the two little stinkie nuggets in a baby food container and let me have a break.

An hour later Mamma made the mistake of opening that baby food container and OMG, it was like a huge stink bomb went off, both Mamma and Daddy started gaggin and almost passed out from the smell! Poor Gracie, I think she might have been mad that her beautiful cecal was being subject to my rejection and their revoltion! I guess she really wanted it for herself.

So I ended up with some of the cecals in my yap, but I figured out how to spit them out. Mamma finally gave up for the night, but I hear she’s planning on trying again in a few days. I think I might take my new skateboard and run away from home, but its raining today so I guess I’ll have to wait. I also have  a problem deciding which clothes to pack.

So last night when it was bedtime, I faced my bum to MOM and she had her back me, I know she’s mad at me and frustrated that i won’t eat nothing and I won’t try the ceals. She caught me just the other day eating a wad of Gracie’s fur that Puds yanked out, but I don’t care anymore, I’m mad at her too!! Well this morning I was still ignoring her when we woke up, but she pulled me over to her and started to smooch on me so I know she still loves me so I kissed her too and nuzzled her for ages just to let her know I’ll forgive her, but I still don’t want those stinkin cecals

Well Buns,

We don’t have any luck yet. This is way harder than we ever thought. Gracie does not want me to have her cecals Last night Mamma had a talk with G on the dining room table and asked her if she’d help me. Then Mamma did get the diaper on her alright and she sat there for several minutes letting Mamma pet her and she was fine. Mamma even let her wear one the bridal tiaras!! Well then it was time to put her in her house and she just hopped right out of it!

Mamma tired a few more times and even put a Tshirt on her and taped the shirt to the diaper, well that’s when Gracie started to panic a bit. I feel so bad for her and I think Mamma did too. Poor Gracie jumped around a bit and tried to get out of diaper and she couldn’t so then she just lay in her corner panting. That when Mamma almost started to cry and said the hell with this, she didn’t want to traumatize her more.

Several minutes after getting all her gear off, Gracie just hung out on her top level in his house scowling at Mamma but she was quickly fine and returned to her normal self. So like a pit bull with a stick, Mamma decided to gingerly try out a cone on her and see what happened. NOT good

She got in on Ok, but when she tried to hop around in her house naturally it would hang up on stuff and she couldn’t move around good. Gracie managed to get up on her top shelf to rest and then quickly decided she wanted down again, Uh OH, that when it happened, she fell face first and landed with the cone side down and her body sticking straight up in the air, she was stuck like that. Poor thing was shocked and didn’t struggle and Mamma grabbed her so fast I’m not sure if Gracie actually knew what happened. Thank Goodness she was OK, Mamma would never have forgiven herself if she had been hurt. Obviously the collar came off and Mamma decided to think this through a bit more.

Mamma was thinkin about getting cecals from someone else’s bunny, but… who knows what household bacteria they got floating around or what pathogens are naturally present in those buns. I think it would be nice to traumatize someones else’s bun, but Gracie has been my house mate for 5 years and chances are what she’s got or I got, so Mamma thinks this is the safest as this treatment is controversial and potentially dangerous if I were to be compromised with something while I’m already so sick. So she believes if we are going to do this, it has to be Gracie seems her health is immaculate and she and I are as good as sisters (although she already hates me, what’s a few cecals amongst family!!)

So after a bit more reading, apparently buns eat and then for next four hours that’s when they pass the regular poo balls, its in the next four hours that they begin to pass the cecals. So Mamma’s idea is this. Give Gracie a nice feed in the morning and then put the cone on her but put her in a smaller carrier with a nice blankie and some hay. she tired it last night and well although it went well for Gracie, she was calm the whole time and didn’t freak out at all, she didn’t give us any cecals Mamma had her in the carrier for 2 hours. It seems that Gracie could only move around a bit the cone didn’t bother her too much other then when she wanted to wash her face. She kept licking the inside of the cone and wiping the outside with her paw. Mamma will try this method again today, this time she’ll let Gracie wait 6 hours after eating then she’ll go in the carrier with the cone for the last two hours of that 4 hour window of cecal production, maybe we’ll have some luck?

Gracie seems just like normal today, she’s had her salad and now she is enjoying some very tasty hay that Aunti Paula sent us, its a real treat and
Gracie seems to have put all of last night behind her, she didn’t even threaten me this morning!!

OK Kiddies, I forgot to update a few details yesterday. We have given up on the appetite stimulants. Mamma mentioned to Deb she thought it worked that first day but not the second. Deb said it was probably the acupuncture that got me eating for the day, and it always just lasts a day when I do get eating from a treatment. Too bad I couldn’t have acupuncture everyday, then I’d eat every day!! Not very practical I guess and I’d have to become a millionaire to afford it!! Maybe an acupuncturist will adopt me!? We still hold hope this cecal transfaunation so to speak will be what will get me going again. apparently there is an actual procedure where cecals from a healthy bun can be injected into  the GI tract via a catheter tube up the butt.I was sent a bit of info about this by another bunny here on bunspace, so I guess our idea is not so crazy. OOh this sounds so scary, I hope eating them will do the trick. But I have to say it is a relief to hear about this though, I think we are on the right track here.

Oh a funny story Aunti sent us a ton of tasty hay again and a few pressies!! Yay, Aunti you spoil me so much!! Anyway the best was the this gorgeous and luxurious fleece tied blankie and Mamma decided to fold it in half and put it in my carrier. Oh boy it is so nice and cozy in there now, I love it!! Well at the vet they got this resident cat Scooter, he’s a big young boy and a bit crazy but he likes me and he tried to steal my salad and crackers. Well yesterday mamma had me crawling on the floor in my diaper while we waiting to get in to see Deb, Scooter went right into my carrier and snuggled down in my new blankie!! I barely had it broken in and there he was!! He refused to get out and he napped in there the whole time I was there, at the end of my appointment Deb pulled him out and before Mamma got me back in, he went back in! OMG that cat is so spoilt!! He has a very nice cushy and comfy bed that was gifted to him by another client and I said to him, OK Scooter, you want my carrier then I’ll trade you for you bed, he said no way!! What a saucy feline!!

OK that’s it for now, sorry these are always so long I’ll let yous know how things go with Gracie this afternoon, we’ll keep our toes crossed for sure. I’ll only need a few of her cecals and I guess I’ll need a few treatments as long as I’m on the antibiotics, Poor Gracie, I wouldn’t want to be her right now. I’m sure she’ll be thinking of a way to report Mamma for her abuse. At least she is getting lots of treats out of the deal and pellets which she hasn’t had in well over a year, you’d think she’d be happy about that!

Poor Gracie, even the tiara didn’t cheer her up!! We got a ton of treats and I got the new blankie and this new bunny friend to snuggle with. Hehe the little white bunny hops when you wind him up. Mamma got some seeds to plant for us and a cute little bunny pin and of course she got some treats to share with Daddy~ that is if he’s nice!!

OMG, two minutes before Mamma was loading me up for the vet that’s when it started, cecal all over the place. I’ve passed 4 huge loads since 2pm LOL!! hehe I love to get Mamma worried but its all for the good! OK this is what we have learned!!

The pro and pre biotics that are in my Fibreplex and in my own CC mix are not naturally found in the bunny gut or cecum, this is why treating with these is so controversial. also when we eat these things it gets killed off by the PH levels in our tums, so…. Its a crap shoot wheather I am getting any benefit from them, although Mamma insists the Fibreplex stuff is so awesome cause of the extra fibre I am not getting in my diet.

also whether I am getting enough nutrients through just my food I don’t know for sure, you’d think so but what is more worrisome to Mamma is the proper natural bacteria levels in my gut.

Last summer is when I started all this not eating crap for weeks on end, always after the antibiotics and although I did rebound somewhat last fall, this year I just keep loosing more and more desire to eat. So Mamma thinks my natural levels need to be re-established, obviously the fibreplex isn’t doing it for me yet.

So through all this Mamma not seeing any cecals from me has made her really think and explore some stuff on the net and she finally found this great article http://www.hrschicago.org/gitractfr.html So the theory is that healthy cecals from a healthy donor can be ingested to re-establish the healthy bacteria in the gut, but they MUST be ingested whole, if they are broken then the bacteria gets killed of in our tums in the first bit its in there, the natural mucus coating to the little globs is what protects it from this. Mamma noticed when buns eat theirs its very daintily and they just sort of mouth and swallow it whole!! So in conclusion Mamma has wondered if my whacked out bacteria in my gut form all the antibiotics over the last several month may be exactly why I am not eating…

Mamma discussed all this thinkin with Deb and she says it makes such total sense and its so natural and simple in theory it just might be what is needed. Mamma sent an email to Dana Krempel so we’ll see what she says about this as well. but Mamma really thinks that is it!

Now to get cecal from Gracie!! Deb says to be careful G doesn’t get mad and eat the diaper cause then we’ll have more problems and she was also a bit cautious if G has E.C or not and then me getting reinfected. But to get her tested and wait for the results would be weeks yet, Mamma thinks G is healthy she has never been sick so she thinks its worth the risk, seems I’m already sickly what do we have to loose!!?

Oh and Deb thought maybe it was the antibiotics that was why I stopped making the cecals, ti was right after my needle I stopped making any.

I want to thank all the buns for their input and advice, Mamma feels so much better about it then she did this morning. she thinks this whole no cecals thing is what actually has helped her figure out the bigger picture. Its so weird how the answers to problems seem to come to her like that!! I really think we’re on to something!!

OH BTW, DAddy has made me a little skateboard and now I am zooming so fast its not funny!! Mamma says I might need a helmet now. I’ll try to get some photos for yous!! and of course of Gracie in her diaper, I hope she doesn’t fight it or she’ll have to wear a cone too!! She is so gonna hate me     xox T

OK buns, I am off to the vets again for my second penicillin needle this afternoon and we’ll think maybe of trying more of the appetite stimulants, but I have to tell you things are getting weird with me.

The first dose of appetite stimulant worked and I seemed to nibble quite a bit more that day, but still not “normal”, the second dose the next day did nothing, in fact maybe I slept more and that was about it, so I go the sedative effects not the munchie effects.

Mamma has been stuffin the CC in my Yap, lots, three times aday I like I get near 100 cc per day so she is not being stingy but here is the bizarre thing. I usually make alot of ceals. For months and months my cecal production has been high and I ususlly will make them at any time of the day. With my paralysis I can’t reach them but I eat them OK on my own and Mamma usually takes them out of my house too cause I make so many and I do eat them she doesn’t want the extras getting all mashed into my fur so we’ve HAD no problem in that area.

Now for the last two day (I’ve been diapered almost 24 hours a day I haven’t made any cecals, not one, nothing!!What is with that? Has anybun ever heard of such a thing? Is this possible? What does it mean? Mamma has been freaking out and threatening to try and diaper Gracie and make me eat hers!! Now this is wrong on so many level, firstly I do NOT want to eat her left overs! That is so gross thank you!! and besides I’m not sure if Mamma could live to tell the tale, it would be like trying to diaper Freddy Kruger! Slice and dice would be an understatement. and then I don’t think she could diaper Puds, could you image trying to diaper a bowling ball and it staying on!

My ordinary pellet poops seem fine, last nights diaper was kind of low on them Mamma thought but I pooped good all day just no cecals Cause Mamma was thinkin I could get cecals when I was in my house its been 4 days anyway maybe 5 since I haven’t gotten any casue Mamma was tossing the ones in the diaper thinking there was a lot more to come, but sadly no.

Now Mamma tried to google this and all she could find was buns with issues making too many and how its the diet too rich and not enough fiber. OK I don’t eat hay but I’m on the Fibreplex still so that’s fibre and pro and prebiotics. Since I started on that my regular poos have been looking so much better and I do make more of them and maybe less of the cecals, but this is ridiculous. There doesn’t seem to be any info out there about buns that don’t make cecals. I doubt my vet is gonna know anything about this, she referrs to Mamma in these kinds of matters seems Mamma is the crazy bunny lady. My surgical vet might, but I’m worried he won’t either. Mamma is thinking a motility agent and another appetite stimulant~ maybe but I don’t know my gut seems to be moving stuff through, it just not sorting it into the categories. Its been over a month now since I’ve been off my food.

I’d appreciate any info you buns might have for me. We are hopin to go to the vet a little forewarned as to what is going on. Daddy wondered if its the antibiotic, but Mamma had noticed that in the past I’d not eat as much of my cecals when I was on antibiotics so we saw more of them not less.

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